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[Article] Hive’s Password Policy Makes Me Cry

 Hey, let’s set up an account with Hive. After the security scares they faced in the mid-2010s, I’m sure they’ll be competent at making a password form, right?

Welcome to Hive 'choose a password' form, with no password entered, saying 'your password must be at least 8 characters'.Your password must be at least 8 characters; okay.

Just 8 characters would be a little short in this day and age, I reckon, but what do I care: I’m going to make a long and random one with my password safe anyway. Here we go:

The same form, with the password S1dfCeg7!Ex;C$Ngban9-A entered. The error message now shows 'Your password must be at least 12 characters log, contain at least one uppercase letter, one lowercase letter, one number, and one special character'I’ve unmasked the password field so I can show you what I tried. Obviously the password I eventually chose is unrelated to any of my screenshots.

Now my password must be at least 12 characters long, not 8 as previously indicated. That’s still not a problem.

Oh, and must contain at least one of four different character classes: uppercase, lowercase, numbers, and special characters. But wait… my proposed password already does contain all of those things!

The same form, now with the password 1111AAAAaaaa!!!! which is accepted as valid.Let’s simplify.

The password 1111AAAAaaaa!!!! is valid… but S1dfCeg7!Ex;C$Ngban9-A is not. I guess my password is too strong?

Composition rules are bullshit already. I’d already checked to make sure my surname didn’t appear in the password in case that was the problem (on a few occasions services have forbidden me from using the letter “Q” in random passwords because they think that would make them easier to guess… wot?). So there must be something else amiss. Something that the error message is misleading about…

A normal person might just have used the shit password that Hive accepted, but I decided to dig deeper.

The shit password again, but appended with a semicolon (;) triggers the message.Using the previously-accepted password again but with a semicolon in it… fails. So clearly the problem is that some special characters are forbidden. But we’re not being told which ones, or that that’s the problem. Which is exceptionally sucky user experience, Hive.

At this point it’s worth stressing that there’s absolutely no valid reason to limit what characters are used in a password. Sometimes well-meaning but ill-informed developers will ban characters like <, >, ' and " out of a misplaced notion that this is a good way to protect against XSS and injection attacks (it isn’t; I’ve written about this before…), but banning ; seems especially obtuse (and inadequately explaining that in an error message is just painfully sloppy). These passwords are going to be hashed anyway (right… right!?) so there’s really no reason to block any character, but anyway…

I wondered what special characters are forbidden, and ran a quick experiment. It turns out… it’s a lot:

  • Characters Hive forbids use of in passwords include - , . + = " £ ^ # ' ( ) { } * | < > : ` – also space
  • “Special” characters Hive they allow: ! @ $ % & ?

What the fuck, Hive. If you require that users add a “special” character to their password but there are only six special characters you’ll accept (and they don’t even include the most common punctuation characters), then perhaps you should list them when asking people to choose a password!

Or, better yet, stop enforcing arbitrary and pointless restrictions on passwords. It’s not 1999 any more.

The invalid password but with all the special characters transformed into exclamation points to make it valid.I eventually found a password that would be accepted. Again, it’s not the one shown above, but it’s more than a little annoying that this approach – taking the diversity of punctuation added by my password safe’s generator and swapping them all for exclamation marks – would have been enough to get past Hive’s misleading error message.

Having eventually found a password that worked and submitted it…

Hive error message: 'This activation URL seems to be invalid.'

…it turns out I’d taken too long to do so, so I got treated to a different misleading error message. Clearly the problem was that the CSRF token had expired, but instead they told me that the activation URL was invalid.

If I, a software engineer with a quarter of a century of experience and who understands what’s going wrong, struggle with setting a password on your site… I can’t begin to image the kinds of tech support calls that you must be fielding.

Do better, Hive.

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Articles – Dan Q

14 Oct 2025 at 10:56

[Note]

 Somebody just called me and quickly decided it was a wrong number. The signal was bad and I wasn’t sure I’d heard them right, so I followed up by replying by text.

It turns out they asked Siri to call Three (the mobile network). Siri then presumably searched online, found Three Rings, managed to connect that to my mobile number, and called me.

If Siri’s decided that I represent Three, this could work out even worse than that time Google shared my phone number.

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Notes – Dan Q

14 Oct 2025 at 10:48

Scripting News: Tuesday, October 14, 2025

 

Tuesday, October 14, 2025

Times I've been ambushed at conferences#

  • Well, I think I'm done. I've got the outline for the slides complete. I can't possibly talk about all the stuff that's in the slides. Once I leave tomorrow I think perhaps I'll post a link for the slides and maybe offer a place to comment. Maybe. #
  • I get very nervous about these things and then remember when I've prepared as much as I have for this, the talk goes quickly and people generally are nice, though I've been ambushed a few memorable times. Let's see -- Austin, Cambridge, San Francisco and Nashville come to mind. ;-)#
  • In Austin it was because I was privileged. I was being honored because it was the 25th year of my blog, and I was one of the keynoters. I told the promoter his people wouldn't like me, and then I forgot I said it when it happened. I was stuck, I didn't want to get into a public argument with anyone. (Had I wanted to rebut, I would have said everyone in this room is privileged, just look around at how well fed and educated everyone is. We all flew in here. We live in a rich country where we are the elite of the elite. Now STFU, in my dreams.) #
  • There have been times when I welcomed an argument...#
  • In San Francisco, I was invited to lead a panel from the music industry about how great Napster was. This was probably in 2000 or 2001 when Napster was at its peak. It was an ambush. All the panelists made me the issue, and then they voted to kick me off the stage. I stayed there and waited until they exhausted their rage, and then asked them a question about music and Napster. Acted like nothing had happened. I had earned my place there, I was a very early industry adopter of Napster. I loved what it did for us. Imagine until then you either had to buy an album to listen to music, build a collection, or wait until it was played on the radio. (What is radio? Kind of an early form of podcasting.) People were talking about music in supermarkets and airports. This could not be stopped, I was sure of it, and they were acting like babies. I stood up and prevailed.#
  • In Nashville, I was invited to be a sort of keynoter for a conference that was patterned after BloggerCon. I did not organize it, but I led a session, which was attended by a famous right wing blogger who I had invited to the Harvard BloggerCon. He brought a bunch of his friends, and they each said no one was listening to them but we were listening to them. I eventually sat down and let them have a session dominated by a few people repeating themselves. It was boring. #
  • Finally I was set up by the promoters of a CMS conference which Berkman hosted at Harvard. I was the master of ceremonies. No one told me that one of my most virulent trolls was there, and when he got up to rage at me I asked him to sit down, but Charlie Nesson who was the senior educator there, and kind of naive about internet trolls, said he should speak his mind. I should have walked out at that point. I knew what was coming. It really shook me. #
  • In Nashville a columnist in a local paper who said I caused the riot, btw. I swear to god I always take my discussion leader role seriously. I gave them all a chance to talk and they all said the same thing, almost as if they had been told to say it. #

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14 Oct 2025 at 05:00

Kicking Puppies Is Beside The Point

 The other day Manu had some personal analysis on the idea of the “two sides” to any given issue, especially in the context of social media, and I was having trouble figuring out what was nagging me about it until another blogger weighed in with some observations that helped clarify the question for me.

Unfortunately, I can’t link you these observations because at some point after publication they completely rewrote the post into a completely different set of observations, with no trace of what I’d found to be the critical bits of criticism that had given me something onto which to latch.

(We all know my strident opinions on the matter of editing old posts, and they basically extend to new posts as well. I’ve said that I do have a window of as much as a day or so when I will make minor edits or suddenly remember an entire paragraph I’d forgotten to include, after which time I either add an addendum to the post or I write an altogether new one. What I don’t do it leave the post in place, at its original URL, and completely replace its text. To be clear: any given blogger can do whatever they damned well please. It’s just that this is a particular thing over which I cannot help but be quite peevish.)

At any rate, the issue the now etherized text raised which helped clarify my reservations as to Manu’s post basically was that Manu didn’t bother to include any actual, real-world examples of his point of contention, opting instead to offer an “out there” hypothetical regarding the kicking of puppies. In this scenario, there are strident supporters of kicking puppies and strident opponents of doing so.

But what if the pro-puppies camp you hear from online doesn’t stop at "puppies should be loved" but also argues that people who kick puppies should all die now and be dissolved in acid and their families be shot into the sun? You clearly are supporting the puppies' cause, but you are definitely not on board with all the rest of the nonsense.

What do you do then, when someone screams at you, asking which side you are siding with? You clearly love puppies, but you also don’t want to support drowning people in acid. So you’re fucked. You could try to explain your position, but nobody got time for that. Chances are, you say nothing, and you silently move away from the public discourse space, never to be seen or heard again.

The problem with limiting the discussion of the “two sides” to an outrageous hypothetical is that it’s tough to translate into whatever actual, specific, real world scenarios might have set Manu off down this path. If there’s any such extremities to the positions of people generally on the side of the right and the just, in that they are calling for their opponents to “die now and be dissolved in acid and their families be shot into the sun”, they are outliers and in the small minority.

What we tend to have in the real world is more like the recent situation on Bluesky where the CEO mocked people’s concerns about a transphobe’s continued presence on the site, and the attendant, ensuing situation wherein with a complete lack of curiosity as to the specifics of the matter the maker of another microblogging service reflexively defended the Bluesky CEO and CTO against criticism.

In this non-hypothetical situation, few if any were calling for death, acid, and the solar expulsion of family members. What they called for was, in the case of the CEO and CTO, a recognition that (to use Manu’s hypothetical) they should ban proselytizers of puppy kicking even if they haven’t yet proselytized about it on Bluesky itself; and, in the case of the owner of micro.blog, some sense of desire for awareness outside his preferred class bubble.

It’s true that in many cases their critics were attempting to shame them into a more expansive and magnanimous view of the issue at hand, but that’s because outing shameful views is part of how we live in a society—or at least how we live in one that’s going to be functional for the widest possible numbers of people and groups of them.

“It’s bad when a lot of people are scared to express what they think because they are scared of the repercussions,” writes Manu. “Because you can’t have a healthy society without open dialogue.” What this gets wrong in its assumptions is the idea that shame is not meant to be part of open dialogue. If we are placing shame, and its kissing cousin shunning, somehow outside the bounds or beyond the pale, then we aren’t at all in an open dialogue in the first place because open dialogue necessarily includes being both called in and called out, to be confronted by why you’re wrong.

As I wrote just yesterday about two writers for The Atlantic acting as apologists and hagiographers for the boot-licking Bari Weiss (one of whom was ranting about the alleged dangers of some leftist “thought-police”), there is right now only one side actively plotting actions which amount to the idea that certain people “should all die now and be dissolved in acid and their families be shot into the sun”—the other side meanwhile still mostly just continues to wonder why the cruelty and wishes that people who aren’t that extreme in both their words and deeds would simply be more careful about what they believe, say, and do, and a little more curious about the effects their own beliefs, words, and actions might be having upon other people already fighting for their lives.

All of which is just to say that in the current environment, blithely disregarding the concerns of trans people (in the one real-world example) or reflexively and incuriously feeling solidarity with other tech bosses (in the other real-world example), does contribute energy to the “wrong side”. In an open dialogue, we get to explain this to them. In a truly open dialogue, they’d also be open to change.

Absent any specific, non-hypothetical situation offered up by Manu himself, this is the only way I can think to respond to his concerns. The problem is that in refusing to discuss actualities, you really just end up saying nothing. The simple truth of things is that words are actions upon the world, and we have every right to shame and shun those whose actions—regardless of intention—disappointingly amount in the end to just so much more senseless punching down.


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14 Oct 2025 at 02:48

13/10/2025

 # Last night, I embarked on one of my semi-regular feed culls; there were a few reasons.

I noticed that some of the feeds had been quiet so did some checks and removed those that had, sadly, been shuttered. I then looked at the most recent updates and removed those that hadn't posted in months.

It wasn't just that blogs hadn't been updated in a while, I noticed that I was marking things as read just to get the numbers down. There was a sense of guilt that I wasn't reading certain things because I didn't have the headspace for them.

There were posts I wanted to read that sat in /reader while I dismissed those around them, and I never got around to reading them.

There were a few other blogs that I no longer "vibed with" so they went too. It's not a comment on the authors, just that my tastes or priorities changed.


Recently, I have seen a number of people blogging about blogging: Should they stop? Why blogs are/aren't isolated. Why they hadn't posted in a while. Nostalgia for the "old web", and the like.

There seems to be a growing dissatisfaction with the internet. Whether it's due to the state of the world right now, or politics and the division it causes, or merely resentment of the centralised platforms. It's as though a malaise is seeping through the web and we're all being impacted by osmosis.

It reminds me of 2016 when Brexit and the first Trump election were the prevailing winds on the web. It didn't matter how much you tried to avoid it all, it always got through.

I say that a lack of posts is usually an indicator of mental health. I wouldn't say I'm particularly depressed at present, more bored and exasperated. Bored of my job, exasperated at the state of (waves hand) all of this.

It's all just a bit … meh.

As I wrote a couple of years ago about that time:

You were told you were following the wrong people but, suddenly, just about everyone became the wrong people. Social was no longer about having fun, it was a place for outrage and division.

The more things change, the more they stay the same.


This isn't me saying, like I have on more than one occasion, that I'm stepping away from it all. No, I'm staying around but trying to limit what I'm exposed to.

Whether this means trying to extricate myself from the 24 hour news cycle, or muting a bunch of words on Bluesky, I don't know.

I do know, however, that I have let this affect me for too long and that I have neglected the blog. I fully intend to post more often.

We'll see how it goes.

Colin Walker – Daily Feed

14 Oct 2025 at 01:00
#

Quick update on today’s TV show rollout in Micro.blog, added a new button to make it easy to link to the entire season, not just one episode. Here’s a screenshot.

Screenshot of Micro.blog web interace showing Slow Horses season 4 and a couple episodes.
Manton Reece

13 Oct 2025 at 23:05
#

Dave Winer getting ready for his talk at WordCamp:

Twitter comes online, we try to work with it. Unless your ideas fit in 140 chars, don’t use links, or style, and you never make mistakes that need correction, it just doesn’t work.

The ideal is to write in our blog space, and publish everywhere.

Manton Reece

13 Oct 2025 at 22:53
#

John Gruber blogging about the end of Apple’s Clips:

Edits, Meta’s new-this-year video editing app for mobile, has a clear use case: it’s meant for editing videos destined for Meta’s popular social media networks. Clips had no clear target destination. It could have, but never did.

Manton Reece

13 Oct 2025 at 19:34

Hobbies on the go

 Today I dropped off my work car for service. They told me it would take two hours, and there wasn’t much I could do but sit and wait.

When I told a colleague, he said: “Oh, what a drag! It’s always like that. I hate waiting!”

Me, I thought: “Yay, two hours to tinker with my blog.”

So I found a seat in the lounge, grabbed a cup of coffee (there’s always free coffee at car repair places here in Sweden, it’s practically a law), and opened my laptop. By the time my car was ready, so was the little thing I’d built while waiting: a new notes section 1.

Those two hours flew by. Honestly, I wouldn’t have minded if they’d said it would take an extra hour.

Hobbies are important. We all need a hobby — and if at least one of them works anywhere, that’s a win.

  1. The content is pulled from my micro blog, birming.com. That means you won’t see those status updates in your RSS feed for robertbirming.com. In short, your feed will stay clutter-free.

Robert Birming

13 Oct 2025 at 17:49
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